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Monday’s Question: Do I Have Orthorexia Nervosa?

March 18, 2019 By Older Bolder Mark

Today’s question comes via reader Kathy P. in Austin –

I’ve just had a very unsettling interaction with my new internist, a woman physician I’m guessing in her early 40s (new doctor assigned because of insurance change). She was asking me about my diet, and I told her I’ve been eating paleo now for nearly 4 years, dropping 72 pounds the first year, with my weight stable at 138-139 now for three years. My husband and I love to cook, and share meals with friends several days per week.

I intermittent fast 3-4 days per week and try to spend a month in keto sometime in the first quarter of every year. My standard bloodwork has never looked better.

As a matter of background, I’m a college professor, marathoner and wannabe triathlete, am 51, 5’10” tall, weighed 138 in the office, with a calculated BMI of 19.9.

Despite my weight and fitness status, my new doc launched into an angry tirade about “paleo poison”, asked if I ate whole grains and legumes, and pronounced me as suffering from orthorexia nervosa. She basically stormed out after that interaction and sent her PA in to set me up for counseling, which I refused.

Wow, and a Quick Suggestion

Kathy, that’s quite a story, though sadly the second time I’ve heard something very similar in the past two weeks. Your high level function professionally and recreationally, lean body mass, and reported evidence of good general health (blood work mentioned above) all support that you’re doing a lot of things right. Perhaps you caught your new doc on a bad day; more likely, you need to petition the insurance gatekeepers to help you select another doc, and I’d encourage you to be very frank if they ask why.

So What is Orthorexia Nervosa?

The term orthorexia nervosa was coined by Drs. Steven Bratman in either 1996 or 1997; here’s his own introduction to the term written on an eating disorder website –

It is good to eat healthy food. We are encouraged to do so by major medical associations, personal physicians, celebrities, schools, employers, the media and even the US government. However, there are a variety of recommendations available regarding what eating healthy means, and some of these are stricter than others. Some people in their quest to be as healthy as possible begin to choose increasingly restricted diets and develop an obsessive, perfectionistic relationship with eating the right foods. This may go so far as to become psychologically and even physically unhealthy. In other words, it can become an eating disorder.

This unhealthy relationship with healthy foods is referred to as orthorexia nervosa from the Greek orthos, meaning “correct or right” and orexia, meaning “appetite.” While orthorexia nervosa is not listed in the DSM-V (the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual used by mental health practitioners to diagnose mental health problems), it is the subject of growing academic research and has become an accepted diagnosis in the mental health community.

A person with orthorexia nervosa has become so fixated on eating healthy food that this one goal begins to squeeze out and diminish other important dimensions of life. Thinking about what to eat replaces relationships, friendships, career goals, hobbies and most other pleasures of being alive. In extreme cases, the obsession with restricting one’s diet can lead to dangerous malnutrition, a truly ironic consequence of what began as a search for improved health.

The remainder of the article is worth a read, particularly as Dr. Bateman describes the progression of orthorexia nervosa in stages, the first of which is “adopting a theory of healthy eating”.

So What Differentiates Orthorexia Nervosa from Healthy Eating?

Here are several common examples of unhealthy behaviors that typify ON –

Fixation over the quality or purity of food.

Inflexible, rigid eating patterns.

Severe emotional turmoil if “the rules” are broken.

Elimination of entire food groups. (Likely the trap that Kathy fell into in the mind of her internist).

Compulsive checking of ingredient lists and nutritional labels.

Increasing concern about the health of food ingredients.

Unusual interest in the health of what others are eating.

Spending hours per day thinking about food to be eaten in the near future.

Obsessive following of food/healthy lifestyle sites on social media.

High distress if “safe or healthy” foods aren’t available.

Compulsive macronutrient tracking.

A focus on weight loss or body image concerns may or may be present.

Detailed behavioral criteria for the diagnosis of orthorexia have been proposed; here’s an example from 2015.

Back to Kathy’s Question….

Three quick thoughts. One, Kathy, given the thumbnail sketch you’ve provided of yourself and your history, and looking through the typical features of orthorexia nervosa (see other approaches to describing typical symptoms here and here), I’d put money on you being a successful paleo foodie and fitness junkie and not suffering from orthorexia. (My purpose here is purely educational, so that’s not a set-in-stone-diagnosis…)

Two, you may have been caught in what some are beginning to describe as an escalation of hostility from some in establishment medicine toward those choosing what appear to be better alternative nutritional paths. It’s time for another new gatekeeper primary care doc, and may your search be fruitful.

Three, in no way is it my intent to belittle orthorexia nervosa here today. There are people suffering mightily from the condition; I saw them as a physician in practice and see them now, more frequently than you might initially think, now as a health coach. From where I sit, a striking percentage are vegans, though I see them in all walks of life, and following any and all sorts of nutritional program approaches you can imagine. Orthorexia can inflict devastating consequences, and if you know someone teetering on the edge of orthorexic behaviors, reach out a caring, helping hand and help them engage with someone who can help.

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Some days you really do have to stop and smell the Some days you really do have to stop and smell the roses; I walked by this overgrown, wild-assed rose bush on my walk this morning and couldn’t help but stop, soak up the beauty and the scents, and grab a few pictures. You don’t need a mindfulness app, trainer, guru, or training - you just need to pay attention to the world unfolding around you. Go find some roses to smell today. 
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Today’s Friday Feast is this amazing Hanger Stea Today’s Friday Feast is this amazing Hanger Steak Bulgogi Bowl (recipe posted on the blog this morning, link in bio). Hanger steaks, like their kissing cousins skirt steaks, derive from the diaphragm though are much more tender and flavorful than skirt - which is still our favorite #fajita cut on the planet. I put this bowl together last weekend before heading down to Austin with our Asian Fried Cauliflower Rice; hot damn, was it tasty. And it’s a simple prep and cook to boot. 
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Mark Sisson and Christine Hassler led an informati Mark Sisson and Christine Hassler led an information packed and challenging day at the Primal Health Coach Masterclass in Austin yesterday. Plenty of good ideas, mental stretching, rib tickling, and sharing throughout the day. Learning is a great thing; there’s always something new to learn regardless of your prior education, experience, age, or background. Get out there and stretch yourself learning something new this week. #learn
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How about this colorful and fresh Green Bean Nicoi How about this colorful and fresh Green Bean Nicoise Salad for lunch or dinner today? Just posted the recipe on the blog this morning, I have to admit it's one of the more creative salads we've done at home in a while, and the bright, lemon-based dressing is amazing. A great thing about this recipe is it can be done in stages and held in the fridge, then assembled right before serving. With or without some wild-caught tuna on the platter, this one is a meal in itself. You'll want to try this one. #nicoisesalad #greenbeans #wildcaughttuna #lemon #olderbolderfitness #olderbolderlife #primal
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What a great lineup of speakers at yesterdays open What a great lineup of speakers at yesterdays opening day for the Primal Health Coach Masterclass in Austin - Tyler Cartwright (@ty_cartwright) and Luis Villasenor (@darthluigi) of @ketogains knocked it out of the park, as did Erin Power (@eat.simple.erin) and Laura Rupsis. Rubbing shoulders with some of the bigs is always inspiring and a great opportunity to learn, test and integrate new ideas, and stretch your goals and the horizon a bit. A rainy day on tap today won't dampen enthusiasm to hear @marksissonprimal and @christinehassler. #primalhealthcoachmasterclass #ketogains #learn 
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#weightloss #fitness #fithack #biohack
#metabolicflexibility #fit
Good morning Austin! I'm down in Austin for this y Good morning Austin! I'm down in Austin for this year's @primalhealthcoach Masterclass training with @marksissonprimal, @christinehassler, and team. Can't wait to get started, though the lake view and coffee from Mozart's Coffee Roasters (@mozartscoffee) after a lakeside walk this morning is a pretty damned nice way to start the day. Let's get this show rollin'. #olderbolderfitness #olderbolderlife #primal #paleo #keto #ketomeals #paleomeals #ketorecipes #paleorecipes #primalrecipes #healthcoach #wellnesscoach #lowcarb #weightloss #fitness #fithack #biohack #metabolicflexibility #fit #coffee #espresso
Posted a new recipe on the blog (link in bio) toda Posted a new recipe on the blog (link in bio) today for this tasty #turmeric #tzatziki; it comes together in just a few minutes and has been delicious on crudite and several grilled meats. My lovely wife would probably eat tzatziki at every meal if given the chance, and this one might be her new favorite. By the way, it's equally good made with the more authentic Greek yogurt as well as a full fat sour cream. Those Farmers' Market vegetables you're picking up this week are calling for this one. #olderbolderfitness #olderbolderlife #primal #paleo #keto #ketomeals #paleomeals #ketorecipes #paleorecipes #primalrecipes #healthcoach #wellnesscoach #lowcarb #weightloss #fitness #fithack #biohack #metabolicflexibility #fit
Posted a fun recipe for our Friday Feast post on t Posted a fun recipe for our Friday Feast post on the blog (link in bio) today - a spicy Crunchy Oven Roasted Nashville Picken (Pork Rind Coated Chicken). This recipe uses a couple of different tricks to make it more crispy and crunchy than ever, and the #primal/#paleo/#keto friendly Nashville glaze is amazing. You’ll want to put this one in the rotation before too long. Cheers. 
#chicken #ovenroastedchicken #nashville #nashvillechicken #nashvillehot 
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New recipe up on the blog today - this delicious B New recipe up on the blog today - this delicious Bacon and Egg Asian Fried Cauliflower Rice. There are ton of great #cauliflower fried rice recipes out there; we’ve tried to pull together the best features of our favorites to pack in the most well-balanced flavors possible. I like mine slathered in a good #sriracha too, though this one is incredibly tasty on its own. We’re featuring this one in a #bulgogi bowl for the Friday Feast this week, recipe to follow. 
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An amazing roasted vegetable platter @whiskeycakep An amazing roasted vegetable platter @whiskeycakeplano today - their arrosto misto appetizer with roasted veg and peppers with red miso butter. Wow, what a great way to start the business lunch - people make better decisions when they’re happy. Roasted #shishitos for the win. #roastyourvegetables #butter #fireroasted
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#ketorecipes #paleorecipes #primalrecipes
#healthcoach #wellnesscoach #lowcarb
#weightloss #fitness #fithack #biohack
#metabolicflexibility #fit
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